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patch #3759: Make freesounds the default soundset

Submitted by:  Marko Lindqvist <cazfi>
Submitted on:  Wed 27 Feb 2013 02:37:14 PM UTC  
 
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Sat 31 May 2014 01:37:10 PM UTC, comment #8:

Now that soundsets no longer contain menu music, but it's part of separate musicset, I checked if the (old) freesounds menu music would be possible to include in standard musicset. freesounds.AUTHORS didn't list it at all. Instead I eventually found file by the same name from http://download.gna.org/freeciv/contrib/audio/music/ .
I think those are all good GPLv2+ files? At least Daniel Markstedt has proposed using it in musicset: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.games.freeciv.devel/59033

Marko Lindqvist <cazfi>
Project Administrator
Sat 20 Apr 2013 11:13:50 PM UTC, comment #7:

> Would this patch be the best place to discuss it?


Yes, that would keep the discussion stored where one would be looking for the info.

Marko Lindqvist <cazfi>
Project Administrator
Sat 20 Apr 2013 03:53:38 PM UTC, comment #6:

Hey all. Bernd Jendrissek just pointed out to me that you were re-evaluating the freesound soundset. I'd be more than happy to take on the project of re-evaluating the licencing issues with the soundset. It would be fantastic to get it included.

Would this patch be the best place to discuss it?

Gavin van L <mdcore>
Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:45:05 PM UTC, comment #5:

> We also have the option to just improve the stdsounds by taking usable parts from freesounds.


I can't think of a single thing about stdsounds that would be any worse with the proposed changes. Your proposal sounds like a win-win.

David Lowe <doctorjlowe>
Thu 28 Feb 2013 12:22:35 PM UTC, comment #4:

> If it turns out that say 90% of the sounds are usable, we could
> probably find alternatives for the rest.


We also have the option to just improve the stdsounds by taking usable parts from freesounds. I haven't tested how well the samples of the two soundsets work together, however.

Marko Lindqvist <cazfi>
Project Administrator
Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:27:16 AM UTC, comment #3:

CC Sampling Plus was the original licence for the sounds at the time, but it's GPL incompatible.

Since then, freesound.org have deprecated CCSampling+ and have been asking owners to relicense their sounds when they log in: http://www.freesound.org/help/faq/#licenses-2

So, many but probably not all of the sounds are now available under a different licence.

If someone could go through and work out how many of the sounds are under a compatible licence, that would be help. (I've been vaguely meaning to cook up something automatic to do so, but that's true of many things.)

If it turns out that say 90% of the sounds are usable, we could probably find alternatives for the rest. (We could try contacting the original compiler, Gavin van Lelyveld; his email address is in the -dev archives.)

(We discussed this before somewhere -- think it must have been on the old forums.)

Jacob Nevins <jtn>
Project Administrator
Thu 28 Feb 2013 03:05:14 AM UTC, comment #2:

I went back to the source and found out that Gavin's statement wasn't entirely accurate, or at least not accurate anymore.

The individual URLs to each audio file in freesounds.AUTHORS are are broken (presumably due to a website redesign) but I could find most of the files I tried by searching the site; a selection follows together with the license statement:

RAH_Flapping_Fabric_2.flac (by narfnarfsillywilly)
http://www.freesound.org/people/narfnarfsillywilly/sounds/57279/

- "This work is licensed under the Sampling+ License."

harpsicord_dream-leave3.flac (by zerolagtime)
http://www.freesound.org/people/zerolagtime/sounds/29628/

- "This work is licensed under the Attribution License."

00535 fight shout man hai 1.wav (by Robinhood76)
http://www.freesound.org/people/Robinhood76/sounds/62684/

- "This work is licensed under the Attribution Noncommercial License."

Daniel Markstedt <dmarks>
Project Administrator
Thu 28 Feb 2013 02:36:32 AM UTC, comment #1:

Gavin said this when he released the package a few years back:

"I've created a soundset for Freeciv based on samples from http://freesound.org, which licences its samples with a Creative Commons Sampling Plus 1.0 License."

Here's a link to the license text:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/sampling+/1.0/legalcode

Just skimming through the first few paragraphs, it looks like the license has a pretty strict noncommercial clause, so while INAL I'd suggest GPL'ing is out of the question...

Daniel Markstedt <dmarks>
Project Administrator
Wed 27 Feb 2013 02:37:14 PM UTC, original submission:

stdsounds has just a few distinct sounds while freesound has distinct sounds for every unit type in standard rulesets. I never enable audio if I have only stdsounds available, but I do use freesounds occasionally.

Distributing freesounds instead of stdsounds would increase our audio quality a lot. I'm just not looked the license stuff closely. Could freesounds be distributed as GPLv2+?

Marko Lindqvist <cazfi>
Project Administrator

 

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