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sr #2798: Want to browse You Tube videos and other Flash enabled video sites.

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Submitted on:  Thu Sep 22 19:57:26 2011  
Category: SoftwarePriority: 5 - Normal
Severity: 3 - NormalStatus: Wont Do
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Fri Sep 23 06:27:50 2011, comment #3:

Note that you can browse youtube videos with the DoudouLinux media player Totem. It has a flash/youtube decoder without the need of flash.

Concerning the jukebox, yes, of course it's possible to do the same with video files. The jukebox code is dead simple:

You're right indeed: as children are supposed to be able to make videos with Stopmotion, having an easy way to play them all would be good. But I don't see us ship much video on the CD, because of space.

Is there a noun for a video jukebox? We can even add it to the coming update of our stable release.

Finally, yes I think your little girl is about to take the mouse! I saw my children attracted by the computer because of seeing us using it: they want to try it too! This was the start point of the project. No matter what you're doing, it's kind of magic for them: things appear and disappear on screen, it seems to be due to what the user's doing, enough to excite curiosity!

Tell us about her progress :).

Jean-Michel Philippe <jmphilippe>
Project Administrator
Thu Sep 22 21:24:46 2011, comment #2:


Thanks for the reply. And I agree with you on your points. Here is a slightly modified request. Could a Video Jukebok application (or script) be created to play a bunch of video files residing on the hard drive in a similar fashion to the current jukebox?

I understand that the purpose of the distro is to have children really use the computer and the use of it as only a video player may not be the best thing, however, I have been playing some sesame street videos for my one year old and she now recognizes the computer as an interactive tool. She grabs my hand and walks me over to the computer when she wants me to play the videos. I suspect she will shortly be learning to use the mouse herself. The video content is driving her to the computer at a young age and I hope to build upon that and get her to use it more as the goals of the project intend.

Interested in your thoughts on this. And thanks for all the hard work.

Thu Sep 22 20:17:22 2011, comment #1:

Yes, we haven't made DoudouLinux to put children on the Internet! Computers from supermarkets are sufficient to do this (and can nearly only do this indeed). The objective is to make them really use the computer, not servers on the clouds :). Note also that most “children” website have restrictive copyrights and are contrary to the spirit of DoudouLinux and free software in general (read their copyright notice or terms of use).

Anyway there are several issues with Flash explaining our lack of interest for this technology:

1. it is very buggy, whatever the software vendor (gnash, Adobe, etc.)

2. it is very greedy, on disc, but with computer resources too

3. the Adobe version cannot be distributed without signing a commercial agreement (we'd have to pay them :( ), the free version doesn't handle the full Adobe format

4. you cannot easily check the content of flash stuffs because it is closed file formats → our web filter cannot block flash animations on content

5. there are known ways to spy on the user activity on its own computer using flash stuff

However if you absolutely want to have flash, you can. DoudouLinux is just a heavily customized Debian, you have to type in the console:

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install gnash

If you really want the Adobe one, replace gnash with flashplugin-nonfree. That's all!

Jean-Michel Philippe <jmphilippe>
Project Administrator
Thu Sep 22 19:57:26 2011, original submission:

I want to browse You Tube videos and other Flash enabled video sites.

Just downloaded your distro for my child and was very disappointed to discover we were not able to view childrens videos we watch on You Tube and other childrens websites. It appears the Flash plugin is required to be installed with your browser. Anyway to accomplish this?



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